bedendoof Today at 9:37 AM Bruh wtf Got em dude Thanks bro Worst discord ever NeverSummer Today at 9:41 AM I like arguing, but not when I provide direct evidence to counter a claim you made minutes earlier and your response is that the other person in the argument is a troll. That's not interesting discussion, it's namecalling. bedendoof Today at 9:46 AM I asked if you were a troll because everyone in the chat was laughing at my comments dude for one This is exactly what you did Hammered a point without ready anything but what you were typing NeverSummer Today at 9:46 AM I mean they were laughing because you picked an evidence-based argument with me, and they think it's funny when new people try that. It never goes well. bedendoof Today at 9:46 AM Your point was "nvidia obv forcing frames to be better by putting more watts. It's so obvious" My point is "wow what kind of degree do you have to make this statement" So I got auto kickedfor being warned earlier because I fcuking asked why ebay keys were frowned upon I was told I was advertising them And everyone told me I should shut up It's so fucking weird NeverSummer Today at 9:48 AM Oh because you were arguing using a logical fallacy called appeal to authority. And I was linking charts/data. bedendoof Today at 9:48 AM What is this extreme over moderation and absolute lack social reasonability to the other person Everyone just speaks in absolutes and barely discusses anything It never goes well because you just hammer the same piint and you just find a good reason to kick someone NeverSummer Today at 9:48 AM So you were arguing in bad faith, and people were waiting for me to do something about it. bedendoof Today at 9:49 AM I called you an asshole because you are missing the point and showing me charts that are irrelevant Look Just thinking data is in good faith is your problem here You are thinking I'm being illogical because you used a chart NeverSummer Today at 9:49 AM I fail to see how a chart showing power consumption in non-RT workloads isn't relevant to a discussion about how increased power consumption is a direct result of RT workloads. If you can explain that, fair enough. bedendoof Today at 9:49 AM But why the fuck would the 3080 not be at the top of the chart it is the NEWEST HIGHEST END XARS ATM New tech new infastructure Like dude grow up NeverSummer Today at 9:50 AM Because no previous 80 card was. bedendoof Today at 9:50 AM Thanks for kicking me cus you didn't see your dumb arguement sorking NeverSummer Today at 9:50 AM This is the first 80 card since 2009 to be like that. The 580, 580, 780, 980, 1080, 2080, and 2080 Super were not like that. bedendoof Today at 9:50 AM Cool I'm done with this you kicked me from public discussion because you didn't want to be honest NeverSummer Today at 9:50 AM The 3080 is.(edited) That's why it's different. bedendoof Today at 9:50 AM You accused me of calling you a troll. I wanna cry for you NeverSummer Today at 9:50 AM My point isn't that it's bad, it's that it is unique to the 3080 in comparison to over a decade of previous x80 cards. bedendoof Today at 9:50 AM Bro that's not how the number game works You are just saying "well this is how it was marketed before I saw a pattern" It's pure idiocy NeverSummer Today at 9:51 AM Which, to me at least, indicates a fundamental change to their strategy in terms of power consumption. Because there is a continuous trend for 11 years preceding 2020. bedendoof Today at 9:51 AM And you are saying nvidia obv did this to make them more powerful cheaply lol what NeverSummer Today at 9:51 AM And then a change in 2020 that bucks that trend. In my mind that is a notable difference worthy of discussion. bedendoof Today at 9:51 AM Yeah probably to utilize new infastructure not to just boof frames! You are immature dude Incredibly so Shouldn't be moderating anything Peace NeverSummer Today at 9:52 AM That doesn't make sense, this is the sixth new architecture in those 11 years. If this happened every time they entered a new arch that would be a pattern. bedendoof Today at 9:52 AM So what's so diff about then And why doesn't it make sense What do you know about their engineering process that I dont NeverSummer Today at 9:52 AM But they've released half a dozen architectures in that same time period without any increased power draw. I don't know anything about their engineering process. I'm using basic pattern recognition I learned in second grade. bedendoof Today at 9:52 AM Omfg semantics and not the point. Who knows what they did with these! Exactly! Second grade skills lmao You just admitted it NeverSummer Today at 9:53 AM Thing was the same for 11 years across six architectures, now thing different. Talk about thing. That's literally it. That is all the more understanding you need to grasp what I'm saying. bedendoof Today at 9:53 AM No logic you just saw a non existent pattern and are randomly saying they are booking it I didn't know power= cheap frames Bad nvidia Are you ever gonna see what I'm saying NeverSummer Today at 9:53 AM I mean no one besides you is having trouble seeing that pattern or discussing it calmly. If you can't that's fine, no one said you had to participate. We're still talking about it. Everyone is calm now though. bedendoof Today at 9:53 AM You aren't educated enough to say what you are saying NeverSummer Today at 9:54 AM There's no arguing, it's just a discussion now. And you're just insulting me again, there's no reason for that we're talking in private. bedendoof Today at 9:54 AM Bruh you hammered at me and told me I'm argueing in bad faith and you repeated the same poiny over and over NeverSummer Today at 9:54 AM To be fair I've now mentioned three different points. bedendoof Today at 9:54 AM Was super.chill unt you are basically harassing me because you know you are eating ass [9:54 AM] And you have the power to ban So it's even dumber on your part If it was such a bad faith arguement like leave me alone NeverSummer Today at 9:55 AM I mean again if you aren't happy with the way that conversation concluded, no one is forcing you to stay in that server. bedendoof Today at 9:55 AM But I couldn't stand you just telling me I'm an idiot that can't look at data I'm saying you! You were the problem! You aren't the only mod Wtf are you on NeverSummer Today at 9:55 AM There are certainly other places that are more willing to ceaselessly praise Ampere and leverage absolutely no criticism against their best friend Nvidia. bedendoof Today at 9:55 AM Wtf? Does that statement mean You are so immature NeverSummer Today at 9:56 AM I mean even if I am personally the problem according to you I don't see what that changes. If you can't be in the same server as me... don't. There are other places to go. bedendoof Today at 9:56 AM Bruh who said that like wtf NeverSummer Today at 9:56 AM I received no messages personally or in the mod mail thing about how that warning was unfair. We absolutely do get those 100% of the time someone oversteps with a moderator action. Everyone except you thought you were being unreasonable and is fine with the warning. So I have no intention of changing my approach or apologizing. If you can't get over it that's fine. I have no investment in convincing you to stay. We have 45,000 other users. You can go whenever you want. bedendoof Today at 9:57 AM Dope glad you feel justified being a jackass who hammered an arguement and abused the tiny bit of power you have I'm thrilled that you are okay with your actions You are dope dude NeverSummer Today at 9:58 AM I absolutely do feel justified, thank you for your approval. bedendoof Today at 9:58 AM NeverSummer Today at 9:59 AM I mean that's a pretty classic insult to level at a mod. I don't really have any insecurities about my personal life though. You can try that angle if you want, but it's not going to go very well. bedendoof Today at 9:59 AM Bro pls stop bothering me. You are so on ass wtf are you talking about You are so annoying and a really shitty mod NeverSummer Today at 10:00 AM I mean no that's not how I do things. You messaged me. I find that when people DM moderators to insult them, the goal is usually to get them to leave/stop responding in frustration. I don't really do that. I'll just stay here until you get bored. bedendoof Today at 10:00 AM I didn't fucking message you to insult you you fucking narcissistic asshole NeverSummer Today at 10:00 AM I mean it really seems like you did. bedendoof Today at 10:01 AM I messaged you to tell you that you should chill out a little bit and a mod shouldn't be so apart of a problem and then ban the other party You took part in a bad faith arguement and you obv love argueing NeverSummer Today at 10:01 AM I'm touched that my opinion of you means so much to you that you needed to continue talking in private to try to prove me wrong. bedendoof Today at 10:01 AM And you love this holier than thou standpoint NeverSummer Today at 10:01 AM Oh I absolutely do love arguing, but I only act superior when I can prove it. bedendoof Today at 10:03 AM Ight peace I just doubt you'll ever actually take the advice seriously of "youre a real jackass" but I promise it's what you need to hear and take seriouslly Have a good life NeverSummer Today at 10:04 AM I just feel like if you're moderating and people aren't calling you a jackass at least every now and then you aren't doing it right.(edited) I've been called much worse for outright banning much worse people. One time I banned a guy for posting dead bodies in the server and he DM'd me more dead bodies. So like I can't really extrapolate that if someone is upset about a mute, they are probably correct and I should re-evaluate my actions. People get upset about mutes/bans even if they were absolutely justified.